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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:04 am  Reply with quote

So this is what it was about...
See, Rob, i have been in RA2 Community since year 2001 as name, before, i was one of those ocassional map makers. Since i decided to make things for public, exactly since August 2001, i have made tonelades of stuff for free. I have helped tonelades of people. And with the pass of time, that quantity increases, and its not common to open my email and see 20 asking questions about modding each day, and i do take my time to reply them all. For those who speak to me by MSN, also know how my life is, and also know im available for anything they need, in the matter its possible, and about anything, either share life problems (like many have done), or modding problems, or ask me for help. I try do my best, and actually, this tasks have over riden my life, to the point that if you look at me one day, youll see me 6 hours at school and 17 hours in front of the monitor.
Being there that many people requesting my help, i try to help everybody as i see it fit. And something, the only actual rule i have, is that things that im using in 2021 are only for 2021 unless it has place in a project of my own, cause as you know, ill be offline for a while in a near future, and i need to leave things as much settled as possible. Im trying to easier up every thing im doing. And i think you do know it, but just are not remembering, that most of the graphics I made for YrArg are available for download already, so i do think its a little off the track to demand something more. Whenever someone requests something and is easy enough, i do it in the same day. I do know i told you you would be able to use those Civ Barracks and Militia, and that now i cant let you since its used in 2021. And i do reckon i shouldnīt have told you you would be able to. I hear you demanding that every day, and i have already told you i will make something for you to use whenever i have enough time to, and you also know that im onto a Naval Yard and an Orca that YOU will use. So i wonder, what more do you want? I do all i can to help anybody i can access, plus try finish my own projects. because of helping everybody, i have delayed YrArg, a mod that RA2 Argentinian community and many YrArg visitors have been waiting for ages, however, in an attempt to please everybody, im always between the sword and the wall.
Many other have understood that when i accept to help (not work, notice that), my timing is hard. I have requests from ages ago that i still keep up, and that will accomplish, and those people accept that i wont be finishing them that fast. So i wonder, why canīt you realise, that i have a life of my own (although i wouldnt call it life), i have projects of my own, time of my own, and that this time is not enough for everything? Realise that whenever you asked help to me, i told you i would try to help, didnīt I? Well, whenever someone else asks for help, i also say ill try, and many times, i end up too tied up. I try to help as much as i can, but if time needed is more than existant, well, my possibilities are not that good, are them?

If any of the above offend you, excuse me, but i think i do enough, and more of what i should, and until now, without problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:05 am  Reply with quote


Kravvitz has got a large job from me. I'm providing him the movie cutscene images for cameo base. I want most of the YR cameo's as the cutscene shows. So u can help me with those which has no cutscene image, an easy example is GGI image. Well the hospital is cool also (i myself did something like this a few month ago). I'll like to have these kinds of cameos.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:26 am  Reply with quote

you know, you really upset me that day you told me i can't have them, well, upset isn't quite acurate, as i wasn't upset, just pissed off. but its been over 6 months since i originally asked you to help, and you still saying "I'll do it when i have time".
but modding is the least of my worries.
Joaorp will know what i mean more than anybody. but. as the saying goes, "life will go on" although thats not always true.
i just seem to be taking it out on you lot don't i?

anyway, that hospital is an example of a 30 kel cameo, the tanya is an exaple of a 10 kel cameo, and thats an edited movie frame on a new background. all others would be 5 kell or less. I spent days working on that tanya cameo, I've done VXLs faster. now do you understand why 0 - 30 kel.
i bet half of you out there couldn't even make a cameo out there like that hospital, i know a few can, but thats it.

Point being, Nobody has helped us for free yet, not even arg, so why should we halp anyone for free?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:31 am  Reply with quote

BobingAbout wrote:
you know, you really upset me that day you told me i can't have them, well, upset isn't quite acurate, as i wasn't upset, just pissed off. but its been over 6 months since i originally asked you to help, and you still saying "I'll do it when i have time".


I have helped all i could since then, you know im cut of possibilities. As for the graphics, i have already apologised 6 times for not being able to give them out. And i already told you i would do whats in possibilities to make new ones for you. But do realise that i work hard enough to help everyone that asks me to, and that im not only helping you.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:40 am  Reply with quote

i do know you do help people, but nobody helps us in the area of graphics or VXLs. NOBODY. unless we offer something in return.

so i might aswell just tell anyone who wants a cameo to go away, cos i ain't doing any any more, not even for kel. its deleting time.

you can all piss off and cry to hunty

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:43 am  Reply with quote

that was my 200th post, i thought it would have been something possitive, not negative Wtf?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:47 am  Reply with quote

BobingAbout wrote:
Point being, Nobody has helped us for free yet, not even arg, so why should we halp anyone for free?


Why not? When I still modded RA2 and YR I offered my services everywhere...for free. I cannot tell you how many cameos, sites and various other things I helped people with...for free. Somtimes it took awhile because I was so busy but I eventually got most of it done. I even abandoned my mod to help other people.

Why should you help people for free? It makes you feel good, creates a healthy environment for those you are helping (They can come back to you for help at anytime) and if you help them enough, (show them what to do and how to do it, encourage them etc.) eventually they will become great modders who can not only help themselves, but be willing to help others as you did.

If you want me to be specific I could write a long list of people I have helped and you can judge for yourself how great they have turned out. I could also make a list of all the people that encouraged me and helped me turn out the way I did.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:48 am  Reply with quote

You might as well exchange cameos for voxels. The thing is there is little people making public graphics in general (except on the cameo field), its a common thing when many move to the next game. That and the fact that cameos take no time compared to voxels.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 10:16 am  Reply with quote

ok

I'm sorry for earlier.

I am a bit wrong. nobody has made any VXLs or SHPs for us for nothing, Kravvits sold me some cameo's, and helped me become a better cameo maker, Arg helped me in the begining with both SHPs and VXLs, but my buildings and inf are terrible, Cameos became decent back then, but VXLs were better. I can't give Arg all the credit for helping me with the VXLs and SHPs cos there was more than just him. i also have to thank the Deezire comunity for helping me become a decent coder. and i have helped far more people with code and how to edit SHPs and even VXLs then those who helped me learn. But when it comes to people actually helping us by making SHPs, we have a big fat 0. we have had a couple of handouts from those people have already made, but none made cos of our requests.

so, if you need cameo's i can do them for you, i can even help you out with VXLs, but only during the next 6 weeks, then back to revolution i go. after that i might be able to squeze you in.

5 kel, for a bunch of cameo's from screen shots, either from movies or ingame.

5 kel each if i have to hunt for images.
10 kel if i have to do tons of editing.

and i don't mean to charge less than Kravvits just to steal his costomers, i just want to help. ask nice enough and i might even do some for free.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:25 am  Reply with quote

over all me and rob (Me with Men and buildings and vxls, rob with vxls and cameos and coding) have made a respectable mod. Fine maybe its not the best graphix, but we have had to do things on our own. We have had some help in the beginning but then people just began to think "what more bloody questions" and they nearly gave up. But Arg has been there for questions even though he has been busy. So the best thing to do and this is to all of you out there ::::

Work as hard as you can, practace on graphix, and just do what you cant do to get the experiance untill you can say that you can do it.

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but neither of us can do buildups
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:46 am  Reply with quote

Hey i have a go, i do my best. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 12:12 pm  Reply with quote

BobingAbout wrote:
but neither of us can do buildups


If you create a building from scratch, most buildups are easy as long as you saved the different parts to make it. Before you create a buildup, plan out what will happen as it will be much easier to make if you have a clear vision of what you want.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 2:03 pm  Reply with quote

Ok I've been helping with codeing questions, mostly from newbies, on many forums.

I'm open to many modding questions, I don't know as much as Cannis, Seaman, Blade,
Deezire, or any of the others that have been around for years, but I know quite a bit.

I've also helped BobingAbout and Pyro (you may not know him) improve their cameo making techniques.

Hopefully I'll get into contact with Vlad06, so that we can actually get some content up on my page on Arm-Ent.

I've done some cameos for free, and I've said several times that prices are negotiable.

Kel really doesn't mean much anyway, so why does it matter if I want to charge a little for making cameos.

I often spend hours looking for a base image and then making a cameo. Part of that is my really slow connection, but there is nothing, I repeat nothing I can do about my slow connection until they bring DSL to my neighborhood.

I hope this will help you understand...me, I guess.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:03 am  Reply with quote

cameos are still on offer at the loww low price of 1 kel each, and here is my latest work, with a bit of help from hunty to alter her face to make her look more evil, its a new cameo for our evil tanya.

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