Now the damage is done

IV:XX

Well i was reading one of my editorials, and they were saying the us should just pull out of iraq right now, which i think is stupid. Now mind you i never supported the war in the first place, but if the government dosen't finish what it started the rest of the middle east is going to be even more mad at us. Honestly i think we should finish rebuilding their country, and leave. Then start weening our depency on oil and leave the middle east alone completely. They don't bother us, we don't bother them.

What is your opinion?

Mostly Harmless

Thank you General Armchair, my opinion is we should just have fun on this forum and not pontificate about shit beyond our control.

An army of one

nuke it...

turn it into a parking lot...

then build a giant walmart in the center

Level: 98

Well we didn't bother the middle east for a while until 9/11...

Level: 137

Mostly Harmless

Here's a little news flash, Afghanistan is in Central Asia, not the Middle East. Every so often we'd have events come about in the Middle East or go and do something in it, but we didn't invade a middle eastern nation until over 2 years after 9/11. In fact, we had been pulling troops out of the region.

Karma Police

America has bombed 24 countries since WW2, none of them were a threat to America in any way.
http://futurepower.org/us_government_violence.html

IV:XX

Mostly Harmless

I disagree with your notion, Jason. We kinda had this whole 'fascism is wrong' opinion during the 40s and happily enforced it upon other people and you know what, lots of nations and folks turned out all the better for it.

Karma Police

Maybe it was bad phrasing. They never actually threatened America directly, though. I'm sure the Soviets had submarines wth nuclear missiles floating off the American coast, but America never bombed the Russians. Attacking Cuba is good incentive for them to launch their missiles at some major cities though, don't you think?

Mostly Harmless

Bay of Pigs predates the Cuban Missile Crisis. We actually didn't attack cuba when push came to shove later, and we didn't attack Cuba directly the first time either, we had Cuban exiles do it for us.

Level: 73

Theres Grenada too ...

Mostly Harmless

High ho, Sheffield Wednesday!

Additionally, has the concept of mutual defence or allies never come to your attention?
Or perhaps the concept of moral duty?
Many countries listed were hardly happy regimes. Bombing Yugoslavia got rid of Milosevic, that well known humanitarian, and the Korean war was UN mandated.
And you're not suggesting the UN is a war monger are you.

That site has a slant so great it's almost bloody horizontal.

Level: 83

that web site made me laugh
for one thing the use of DU in weapons is used by more than just the us
The UK, Germany, russia, china, and a good number of other militaries have adopted it as well.
that article about us bombiing countries made me burst into laugher because it was so inaccurate as to what it was talking about
cambodia and vietnam was the vietnam war (abiet useless? thats a dif topic)
somalia, kosovo, kuwait, yugoslavia, & iraq were all UN mandated, but America bears teh brunt of fighting UN wars because it seems like we are the only ones that are willing to accomplish sumthing other than sitting around
thats my point of view it hink and although the us is messed up in certain respects i think the media is skewed against the us. Being as how we dont know anything about the war in iraq u know...or how an israeli jet was shot down and seemed to ignite a tire fire....and the same woman shows up in 5 different pictures of lebenon....the associated press is a tool for terrorist manipulatioin