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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:22 pm    Post subject: New civ buildings on the works for openra Reply with quote

i am in the processes of making new civ buildings, take a look and tell me you opinions.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:16 pm  Reply with quote

The bill boards look... odd. Too big I think, no shadow also.

I like the grey tower blocks.

Its always difficult to make buildings look natural because WW made the original's with so many inconsistencies - Scale, Angle etc etc
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:29 pm  Reply with quote

Any updates ?

Maybe pass the progress on to the OpenRA team so they can expand on the official tileset at least
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:21 pm  Reply with quote

Dieter122 wrote (View Post):
Any updates ?

Maybe pass the progress on to the OpenRA team so they can expand on the official tileset at least


Can someone find him online or IRL and ask?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:39 am  Reply with quote

Yeah some of them stand out too much and don't blend in with the scenery and such. But they look great. Do they have any special bonuses?

Even if they are just no-bonus structures, I would love to make an urban warfare map with these Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:57 am  Reply with quote

Hey, sorry but thought that no one cared for those, because of no comments. But now that i know there are going to get finished.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:01 am  Reply with quote

Well unfortunately i spoke with the main developer of openra pchote, and he was against the idea of having those in to the main game, what i can say? bad luck people! tho i will add them to my mod so you are all welcome to use them there.

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[11:27] <KOYK> hi all
[11:27] <Ltem> hi
[11:27] <KOYK> pchote if i finish those are we going to add them to openra? http://www.sleipnirstuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&p=306925#306925
[11:27] <@orabot> Title: Sleipnir's Stuff :: View topic - New civ buildings on the works for openra
[11:28] == feliwir [Elite17837@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lnlwettmtkpiocmd] has joined #openra
[11:28] <+pchote> I don't like the idea of adding new assets to the base game
[11:28] <KOYK> why is that?
[11:28] <+pchote> there are several
[11:28] <+pchote> first off, it aggrevates what is already an unhappy copyright situation
[11:29] <+pchote> secondly it dilutes the original game
[11:29] <+pchote> and in many cases (i'm not necessarily saying it applies here) the quality is noticably different, meaning that they don't integrate well
[11:30] <KOYK> copy right with who? you mean EA games?
[11:32] <KOYK> also there is a desert tile set on ra and a jungle tileset for td so i think we are passed the point of staying true to the original (decoretion wise) from the original game
[11:33] <+Scott`> we have, but making it worse doesnt help
[11:33] <KOYK> also if you are talking about copyright issues about those asset, i made them so we are ok
[11:35] <KOYK> ok but in the video scenes of the game, you can clearly see that there are citys involved in the war, so i think this could be an improvement considering that there is already one city building added to the game
[11:36] <+Scott`> the game itself wasnt set in cities though
[11:37] <KOYK> yes but that dosnt mean they dint want to add that at some point, i mean there is always a time line when you make games
[11:37] <+Scott`> sure, look at ts/ra2
[11:38] <KOYK> as we can see in red alert 2 for example
[11:38] <KOYK> yea
[11:40] <KOYK> to be honest take a look at some user maps that are using the only one city building that exist in ra multiple times so they can make a city like map, the problem is that they end up adding the same building over and over again, so having more buildings is going to be a better solution for them, and i am sure the players will appreciate this, dont you think?
[11:41] <+pchote> players would appreciate many things that are not realistic
[11:41] <+pchote> projects need to define boundaries on what they are willing to include
[11:41] <KOYK> is not realistic to have city buildings tho?
[11:42] <+pchote> not in the sense of project management, no
[11:42] <KOYK> so red alert 2 and tiberian sun is unrealistic is that what you are saying?
[11:42] <+pchote> i'm not talking about in-game realism
[11:42] <KOYK> oh ok
[11:42] <KOYK> well as i said if i finish those
[11:43] <KOYK> buildings
[11:43] <KOYK> so that means ill do that work
[11:43] <KOYK> fair right?
[11:43] <+pchote> no, because that then scope creeps further down the slippery slope that we are already too far down for my liking
[11:45] <KOYK> pchote i thought this was an open source game right? i mean is it your personal project? i mean what if the player base wants this?
[11:46] <+pchote> open source projects have maintainers who have a responsibility to shepherd the project
[11:46] <KOYK> and who points out who are the maintainers?
[11:47] <+pchote> the maintainers
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[11:49] <KOYK> i see, well i tried, i don't want to argue more on this, i mean its clearly a person project and whoever got the key to the door owns the house, so point taken.
[11:50] <KOYK> personal*
[11:50] <+pchote> KOYK: sorry if this comes across harshly
[11:51] <+pchote> but coming into a project and insisting that they add your stuff isn't very nice
[11:54] <KOYK> well i am here a long time 7-8 years maybe? so i felt like a part of the family for some reason, and after the force "hind" situation the idea of "insisting that they add your stuff isn't very nice" never cross my mind
[11:56] <+pchote> I apologise if I misintpreted you and that caused offense
[11:56] <+pchote> *misinterpreted
[11:56] <+pchote> and I expect that the others will tell me to pull my head in if they fundamentally disagree with me
[11:56] <KOYK> its ok tho i mean about the harshly thing you said, to tell you the truth is better for me to add those to my mod and have the exclusiveness of those assets
[11:57] <KOYK> np

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:02 am  Reply with quote

Hey, ELoyros - despite your assests becoming not official you can always finish your buildings and provide example yaml code to include them with a custom map.
So that would not be official but in your responsibility to publish and still map editors could use it.

Tbh they do really not blend in 100% with either RA or TD, (in my oppinion because they are too big, compare the tiny village buildings) and anything official should be at least as good as the original (so 110%). Also with redistributing artwork on the billboards that you didn't make yourself you are probably infiringing someones copyright. Stay alert.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:28 pm  Reply with quote

Well the billboards are a side project and not the actual city buildings theme, and also exept from one all others are westwood images. And aside from that as i said the buldings are not actual finished, so there will be some rework any way. About the size well it depends i mean city buildings are large, take for example TS and RA2.
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